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Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby gregc on Wed Jan 31, 2018 3:57 pm

Hi, Have tried the old topics but could not find anything absolute. We are looking for a gas Aga or Rayburn (had two Agas in our last two houses). Noticed that you can get some older Rayburns in beautiful condition. We only need it for cooking. Is it possible to use one of the cooker/boiler or cooker/boiler/heating with the non-used side switched off permanently? Anyone any suggestions?

Many thanks

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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby escort on Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:45 pm

Hello Greg, yes it is possible to do what you suggest, but if you do go down that route look at the Rayburn 380 or GD80. Avoid the gas nouvelle as the oven thermostat and burner are obsolete and very hard to get hold of.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby john on Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:36 pm

I would say better to find an Aga .
Far superior cooker . I think that after an Aga you would be disappointed with Rayburn.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby gregc on Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:58 am

Thanks to you both for your replies. There is a GD80 near us at the moment worth a look.

John, I think the Aga would be the preference having owned two. Are there any accurate assessments of running costs? Our first Aga was a 4 door oil and it used far less than some of the figures I have seen published (we actually used less oil than some published figures including an oil boiler and my wife does not do cold!). Wife is happy with a Rayburn if it going to cut ongoing costs but if there is not much in it then the Aga would win.

It is a difficult decision. One other factor, we have a very cold kitchen (single story extension to the back) so an Aga would at least prevent frostbite some mornings (and probably cut our fuel bill as the kitchen radiator can be on all day).

Any help/advice will be much appreciated.

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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby john on Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:52 pm

gregc wrote:Thanks to you both for your replies. There is a GD80 near us at the moment worth a look.



It is a difficult decision. One other factor, we have a very cold kitchen (single story extension to the back) so an Aga would at least prevent frostbite some mornings (and probably cut our fuel bill as the kitchen radiator can be on all day).

Any help/advice will be much appreciated.

Greg


it is never a good Idea to run a Rayburn with a dry boiler , and connection into the heating /HW system may not be easy.
In addition the flue from a single story extension can be difficult . Downdraught, pressure zones etc depending on wind direction. Have the site surveyed by an experienced guy before you commit.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby gregc on Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:55 am

Thanks again. We are getting an Aga flue engineer out to take a look.

Another option is we also have a modern electric range against the outside wall, the gas supply is opposite so we could pay to run the gas round to the outside wall, run a new electrical spur to the gas side then use a balanced flue. I suspect the cost of the work will be about the same as fitting a conventional flue. Are balanced flues any good? We used to have a gas fire on a power flue and it was nothing but trouble.

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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby escort on Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:34 pm

It can be a real lottery buying a second hand balanced flue cooker and correct installation is a must to make sure it will work.

Power flue Aga's are more versatile with flue options and the flue does not necessarily need to be on the same wall as the cooker. The Power flue is a reliable cooker, I look after quite a few and other than the occasional replacement fan they run well, but bear in mind though if the power goes off the Aga goes off.

Another option possibly is to look for a cheap Aga then have it converted to run on electric. Not too familiar with these personally but you would not have to worry about a flue with an electric conversion.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby gregc on Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:33 am

Thanks for all your advice. Back to thinking about it!

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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby steviep on Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:25 pm

Is it possible to run a Rayburn with the back boiler removed and with the gap filled in with fire brick?
I have an old Rayburn No2 with a back boiler which has a leak.
If the firebricks could be used, would I need to fill the space left by the boiler with something or could it be left empty?
I don't intend to use a boiler in the future and I understand it's not wise to use them empty.
I appreciate this may not be the right thread to be in, but I noticed someone mentioned this earlier.
Thanks for any advice.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby escort on Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:43 pm

Yes if you remove the boiler you will need to fill the void left behind. I have seen at least 3 of these older rayburns that have been dis-connected from the hot water circuit and have the boiler left in the cooker with the pipes left open [very important!]. These rayburns I mention have been converted to oil fired and non have suffered any problems from having a dry boiler in them.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby john on Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:17 pm

Just be careful as very hot gasses can come out of the connections
Maybe a scalding risk!
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby steviep on Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:27 pm

Thanks for the quick replies.
As the boiler is removed now I will go with the fire bricks. As long as I fit them correctly it should work.
Thanks again.
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby john on Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:50 pm

There should be bricks to suit a Dry cooker , although they might not be readily available for a No 2 these days
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby steviep on Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:15 pm

I know John, I was thinking that.
I'm now swithering between a new boiler or the bricks. I have seen both on the internet. It will depend on price and availability.
I still have to get the flue and prepare a hearth for it. At the moment it's sitting in the middle of the floor.
A good wee project though.
I have seen boilers here http://www.anystove.co.uk/rayspares.php?filter=no2
and the firebricks here https://www.rjpryce.com/Products/raybur ... ks/RAYCB65
So should get lucky
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Re: Running Rayburns as cooker only

Postby john on Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:09 am

Do you feel a No 2 is actually worth installing .
Lots of decent OF7s about
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